Thursday, May 26, 2011

Fahrenheit #4: Entire Book Questions #1 (Spoilers!)

Directions:  If you would like to respond to this prompt as one of your blog posts, you need to give a detailed, text-oriented response to at least three of the questions below.  Be sure to number them.  Remember, you may also respond and build on others’ comments.

  1. "Don't look to be saved in any one thing, person, machine, or library," Faber tells Montag. "Do your own bit of saving, and if you drown, at least die knowing you were headed for shore." How good is this advice?
  2. Unlike Mrs. Hudson, Montag chooses not to die in his house with his books. Instead he burns them, asserting even that "it was good to burn" and that "fire was best for everything!" Are these choices and sentiments consistent with his character? Are you surprised that he fails to follow in her footsteps?
  3. Beatty justifies the new role of firemen by claiming to be "custodians of [society's] peace of mind, the focus of [the] understandable and rightful dread of being inferior." What does he mean by this, and is there any sense that he might be right?
  4. How does the destruction of books lead to more happiness and equality, according to Beatty? Does his lecture to Montag on the rights of man sound like any rhetoric still employed today?
  5. Why does Montag memorize the Old Testament's Ecclesiastes and the New Testament's Revelation? How do the final two paragraphs of the novel allude to both biblical books?
  6. Are there any circumstances where censorship might play a beneficial role in society? Are there some books that should be banned?
  7. If you had to memorize a single book or risk its extinction, which book would you choose?

14 comments:

  1. 4)A society without books allows no free thinkers. According to Beaty, if there are no books nobody wants to or even needs to think about the books or what the books are trying to say. Therefore; no books, no one thinks; no one thinks, everyone is equal in thought.
    5) The last two paragraphs of the book (if one has read the books of Ecclesiastes or Revelation) have a scriptural essence about them. The tree of life, the river; a time for silence, a time for speach etc.
    7) If I had to memorize a book or risk it's extinction I would memorize The Doctrine and Covenants from the Book of Mormon.

    -Josiah Reedy

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  2. 1.)He was basically telling Montag that you should always try and if you don’t you will regret it, and if you try but fail just know you did your best. So it is very good advised. I also like how after Clarisse died he was his guide, his way to happiness.

    2.)No I’m not really that surprised because Montag has his own ambitions as does every other person in this world. He got some of his choices from the hobo men on the train tracks that if you read a book you can contain the information in your head so his ways with saying “fire is good for everything” is very true.

    3.)In a sense it is true but you cant hide form everything because them hiding everything is the fact of why there society is messed up already. But they do clean things up because they don’t have so much war and so many different political views.

    -Angela Harrison

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  3. Angela i like how you are answering the harder questions of every blog. It means that you have actually read the book and understand it. Keep up the good work :D

    ~Miguel Sanchez

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  4. 1. I belive this advice is great, not only for Montag but for everyone else. Most of us want to depend in others to be successful, but if we dont try our best there will be no gain, and is better to try and fail than to never have tried.

    2. the destruction of books lead to more happiness and equality, because everyone has the same knowledge and no one is more superior, according to Beatty.

    7. If i had to memorize a book or risk extinction, i would memorize the bible because there are many wise words and religion is important to society.

    jorge G

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  5. 1) This advice is brilliant because it kind of ties in with the quote “Winners never quit, and quitters never win”. Both of these quotes are pretty much saying that if you don’t try you will not succeed, and if you tried but didn’t succeed, at least you tried or “were headed for shore”.
    4) According to Beatty, the destruction of books leads to more happiness and equality because if there are no books then everyone has the same knowledge which is basic in the society that they live on. His lecture to Montag on the rights of man sounds like something a politician would say about being a good American citizen.
    6) Yes, I think there are definitely some circumstances where censorship might play a beneficial role in society, especially when it comes to sexual/pornographic movies or books that children shouldn’t have access to but still do. Some books that should be banned are porn magazines and boring books!!!
    7) If I had to memorize a single book or risk its extinction, I would choose the bible.

    ~Miguel Sanchez -___-

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  6. 1. I thought this was really insightful advice. To me it means this: Do not rely on any object, whether it be human or machine or books, to do what you need to do. And if you die, know that you died in the right path. I really like that advice.

    6. I believe that anyone should have the right to read whatever they choose to. Even though in some circumstances, the reader might not be mature enough to choose his or her literature. Its subjective.

    7. If I had to choose one book to memorize, it would be a history book about all of the major catastrophes man has created. Because although religion is important, there are somethings in the past that can't be forgotten or they might be repeated.

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  7. 1) Faber is telling Montag (at the point in the book that they are at when the advice is given) that he (Montag) shouldn't rely on anything else for saving or extra support. If the damsel is still in distress, and all of the knights have been killed by the dragon, then the princess shouldn't keep waiting for someone to save her, because sister, it ain't gonna happen. She needs to be independent now if she wants to live. She needs to begin saving herself, and if she dies, she can die knowing that she was at least trying. This is in the position that Montag finds himself in. All of the knights (the book reading nomads) appear to be gone from society, when they are actually in hiding. At this point, Montag couldn't rely on anyone but himself. He needed to act quick, and Faber is telling him this, and he's also assuring Montag that if something does go wrong, it will all be okay in the end, because Montag was striving to choose the right.

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  8. 2) It was not surprising that Montag did not decide to burn with his books as Mrs. Hudson did. It was not a decision that aligned with Montag’s character. Originally, Montag wants nothing to do with books, he only wishes to follow orders and burn them, as evident from the very first line of the book, “It was a pleasure to burn." Montag then goes into depth, saying things like “It was a special pleasure to see things eaten, to see things blackened and changed…”. This shows how Montag used to think, that burning books was an honor. Although a his opinion has now flipped as shown by Montag’s words when he is confronted head on by Captain Beatty, “We never burned right”. It would be too drastic of a change if Montag suddenly was willing to sacrifice himself for his books. Perhaps, in the future, Montag will do anything to save his books, however, not at this point in the story.

    3) When Beatty justifies fireman’s role of burning books by claiming to be the “custodians of [society’s] peace of mind…” there is a sense that he is right. By burning books, society is protected from being exposed to controversy. Opposing ideas are what sparks arguments, which can grow into more violent things like persecution and war. By having a world without any ideas, you run no risk of differences hurting people. In Beatty’s mind, this is what justifies himself along with the other firemen, they are protecting the people.

    4) According to Beatty, the destruction of books leads to more happiness and equality because if there are no books, no one has more knowledge than somebody else. People only know what they are told; therefore have no more power than another. There are no books to provide diverse ideas for people, meaning there is no risk of controversy. What may start out as minor disputes of ideas can turn into extremities like persecution and war. It is not exactly unreasonable to think like this as it has happened in the past. In World War II, there was the Holocaust where Jews were persecuted for nothing other than being a Jew. After WWII, was the Cold War, a war mainly between America and Russia in a race to spread their own ideas across the world. America wanted to spread democracy while Russia tried to spread communism. The difference of ideas resulted in a war. Furthermore, Beatty’s lecture to Montag sounds like something a politician would say about being a good American citizen. Beatty speaks about burning books to protect people as a very patriotic person would speak about giving up certain freedoms and following laws to reduce risk and keep people safe.

    6) Yes, there are circumstances where censorship plays a beneficial role in society. Things like mature content should not be accessible to children, therefore should be censored from them. Movies and books sometimes expose young children to topics they should not concern themselves with until they are much older. In cases like these, censorship is very beneficial to society because it protects from younger people from exposure.

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